Talk:Imageboard
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Nice. G1ade (talk) 18:56, 21 May 2022 (EDT)
some comments:
- Ambitious number of red links there. Is it worth reaching out to other internet history wiki groups like bibanon or Archiveteam to collaborate on articles?
- Would be good to nail down definitions of terms and clarify which of these include others as special cases: Imageboard, textboard, bulletin board/BBS, Web Chat, internet forum, SNS, Usenet newsgroups.
- In later articles that go into culture, these images may come in handy:
G1ade (talk) 19:41, 21 May 2022 (EDT)
- Is it worth reaching out to other internet history wiki groups like bibanon or Archiveteam to collaborate on articles?
- I dunno - I kinda like this wiki being our own thing for us to play around with, and us being able to take a fresh look at things instead of just spreading the same crappy misinformation and hearsay that most of the others do. In fact, the main reason why I began digging into Japanese BBSes and their history in the first place was because of how disatisfying (and often downright wrong -_-) the existing "literature" on this stuff was, LOL
- >Would be good to nail down definitions of terms and clarify which of these include others as special cases: Imageboard, textboard, bulletin board/BBS, Web Chat, internet forum, SNS, Usenet newsgroups.
- Definitely. "Textboard" in particular... I want to demolish that stupid n00b term!!
- >In later articles that go into culture, these images may come in handy
- Agreed, but we have to be careful not to take everything they say at face value - we have no idea how much (or how little) the person(s) who made them knew, so its always best to go digging and verify for ourselves
- Also check out this sweet formatting - if you put a colon at the start of a line, it becomes indented! And they stack too! Talk pages will no longer be an indecipherable mess, hooray!
- --Anonwaha (talk) 21:01, 21 May 2022 (EDT)
What did the existing literature get wrong? G1ade (talk) 21:26, 21 May 2022 (EDT)
RIP to gz-loader who died G1ade (talk) 22:21, 21 May 2022 (EDT)
- >Is it worth reaching out to other internet history wiki groups like bibanon or Archiveteam to collaborate on articles?
For inviting them, why not if they Heyuri-fy themselves first? And about copying what other wikis has, it might come in handy if their authors consent (or not, as long as it doesn't bring in absurd conflicts). --Kaguya (talk) 07:00, 22 May 2022 (EDT)
- I don't see the point in copying material from other wikis (or inviting their authors to HHS) unless its Japanese-only material that's never been (or has rarely been) documented in English before. Surely the goal of the Heyuri Historical Society is not to just copypaste or mirror things from elsewhere, but to do our own research and write articles from a Heyuri perspective... no? Heyuri has long proven to be perfectly capable of this, and are even praised for their digging and research abilities, so it seems a shame to use our wiki just to host a bunch of articles that already exist elsewhere: https://dis.heyuri.net/lounge/koko.php?res=928
/lounge/ - The home of great expeditions into the uncharted
928 Anonymous 2022/03/12(Sat)18:33
Its really cool how many different adventures anons here have taken into the great unknown east. Into japans internet, chartering websites no white man has ever stepped onto before, examining ancient runes, unearthing software never before seen by civilized peoples. Onwards!
- True information is true everywhere! I see there are already some minor stuff on HHS copied from other wikis, but this doesn't mean our wiki can't be greater than them. Someone can read pages on all wikis that talks about a topic and make further about it, but they don't have any obligation to not copy-paste stuff they believe to have summed up relevant information well. --Kaguya (talk) 16:49, 23 May 2022 (EDT)
- The problem is that a lot of it isn't true - it's misleading, it's written from a position of ignorance, or it's just plain false. There's this whole constructed lore regarding the Japanese side of things that "Anonymous Imageboard and Textboard Historians" (lol) repeat to themselves that is - at best - just a series of Chinese whispers that no longer accurately describes anything
- Rather than copy any of their crap, it's best to look at the sources they provide (or not, because it's mostly just crappy books written by mediafags and dumbass journalists from the 2010s who have NO idea what they are talking about), try to verify everything with archives and Japanese documents (preferably first-hand) as best as we can, and then write about it ourselves like we've been doing on Heyuri for years! --Anonwaha (talk) 18:30, 23 May 2022 (EDT)
- Oh... well a lot of that stuff I either plan to write about at some point, or it can just have something dumb and funny ヽ(´ー｀)ノ
