Talk:Strange World - Revision history

https://wiki.heyuri.net/index.php?action=history&feed=atom&title=Talk%3AStrange_World Talk:Strange World - Revision history 2026-04-19T19:06:27Z Revision history for this page on the wiki MediaWiki 1.43.1 https://wiki.heyuri.net/index.php?title=Talk:Strange_World&diff=479&oldid=prev G1ade: Made a mistake with the <hr>. 2022-05-16T08:31:22Z

<p>Made a mistake with the <hr>.</p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 08:31, 16 May 2022</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l29">Line 29:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 29:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>There's a whole other discussion you could get into with how both the imageboard format and the Amezou/2ch formats grew out of MiniBBS (and therefore are also "chat like" at their core), but I'll leave that for another talk page! --[[User:Anonwaha|Anonwaha]] ([[User talk:Anonwaha|talk]]) 22:51, 14 May 2022 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>There's a whole other discussion you could get into with how both the imageboard format and the Amezou/2ch formats grew out of MiniBBS (and therefore are also "chat like" at their core), but I'll leave that for another talk page! --[[User:Anonwaha|Anonwaha]] ([[User talk:Anonwaha|talk]]) 22:51, 14 May 2022 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"><hr></del></div></td><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-added"></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I see, so Web Chat refers to a specific lineage of websites. Then the comparison makes sense to me. More popular than IRC, WTF? I thought IRC used to be huge. [[User:G1ade|G1ade]] ([[User talk:G1ade|talk]]) 18:39, 15 May 2022 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I see, so Web Chat refers to a specific lineage of websites. Then the comparison makes sense to me. More popular than IRC, WTF? I thought IRC used to be huge. [[User:G1ade|G1ade]] ([[User talk:G1ade|talk]]) 18:39, 15 May 2022 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>It did, but IRC had [https://netsplit.de/networks/top10.php?year=2003 around 1 million simultaneous users] at its peak in 2003 <small>(don't believe the citationless "6 million in 2001" claim currently on Wikipedia - I'm pretty sure they added an extra 0 by mistake because [https://netsplit.de/networks/top10.php?year=2001 according to this it appears quite close to 600,000])</small>, while [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebChat_Broadcasting_System WBS] alone was reported to have 2.7 million users in April 1998 - and that was just one web chat site! For comparison, IRC in 1998 likely had [https://netsplit.de/networks/top10.php?year=1998 somewhere around 150,000–200,000 users] - outside of a brief window in the early 2000s, IRC was much more for hardc0re net users. Web chat on the other hand was more commonly used by casual and general users (who - at least in the West - would go on to use IM clients in the hundreds of millions) --[[User:Anonwaha|Anonwaha]] ([[User talk:Anonwaha|talk]]) 02:55, 16 May 2022 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>It did, but IRC had [https://netsplit.de/networks/top10.php?year=2003 around 1 million simultaneous users] at its peak in 2003 <small>(don't believe the citationless "6 million in 2001" claim currently on Wikipedia - I'm pretty sure they added an extra 0 by mistake because [https://netsplit.de/networks/top10.php?year=2001 according to this it appears quite close to 600,000])</small>, while [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebChat_Broadcasting_System WBS] alone was reported to have 2.7 million users in April 1998 - and that was just one web chat site! For comparison, IRC in 1998 likely had [https://netsplit.de/networks/top10.php?year=1998 somewhere around 150,000–200,000 users] - outside of a brief window in the early 2000s, IRC was much more for hardc0re net users. Web chat on the other hand was more commonly used by casual and general users (who - at least in the West - would go on to use IM clients in the hundreds of millions) --[[User:Anonwaha|Anonwaha]] ([[User talk:Anonwaha|talk]]) 02:55, 16 May 2022 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"><hr></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Do you have a copy or archive of that script? --[[User:Kuz|Kuz]] ([[User talk:Kuz|talk]]) 23:16, 14 May 2022 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Do you have a copy or archive of that script? --[[User:Kuz|Kuz]] ([[User talk:Kuz|talk]]) 23:16, 14 May 2022 (EDT)</div></td></tr>  </table>

G1ade https://wiki.heyuri.net/index.php?title=Talk:Strange_World&diff=476&oldid=prev Anonwaha at 06:56, 16 May 2022 2022-05-16T06:56:08Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 06:56, 16 May 2022</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l29">Line 29:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 29:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>There's a whole other discussion you could get into with how both the imageboard format and the Amezou/2ch formats grew out of MiniBBS (and therefore are also "chat like" at their core), but I'll leave that for another talk page! --[[User:Anonwaha|Anonwaha]] ([[User talk:Anonwaha|talk]]) 22:51, 14 May 2022 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>There's a whole other discussion you could get into with how both the imageboard format and the Amezou/2ch formats grew out of MiniBBS (and therefore are also "chat like" at their core), but I'll leave that for another talk page! --[[User:Anonwaha|Anonwaha]] ([[User talk:Anonwaha|talk]]) 22:51, 14 May 2022 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"><hr></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I see, so Web Chat refers to a specific lineage of websites. Then the comparison makes sense to me. More popular than IRC, WTF? I thought IRC used to be huge. [[User:G1ade|G1ade]] ([[User talk:G1ade|talk]]) 18:39, 15 May 2022 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I see, so Web Chat refers to a specific lineage of websites. Then the comparison makes sense to me. More popular than IRC, WTF? I thought IRC used to be huge. [[User:G1ade|G1ade]] ([[User talk:G1ade|talk]]) 18:39, 15 May 2022 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">hr</del>></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">It did, but IRC had [https://netsplit.de/networks/top10.php?year=2003 around 1 million simultaneous users] at its peak in 2003 </ins><<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">small</ins>><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">(don't believe the citationless "6 million in 2001" claim currently on Wikipedia - I'm pretty sure they added an extra 0 by mistake because [https://netsplit.de/networks/top10.php?year=2001 according to this it appears quite close to 600,000])</small>, while [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebChat_Broadcasting_System WBS] alone was reported to have 2.7 million users in April 1998 - and that was just one web chat site! For comparison, IRC in 1998 likely had [https://netsplit.de/networks/top10.php?year=1998 somewhere around 150,000–200,000 users] - outside of a brief window in the early 2000s, IRC was much more for hardc0re net users. Web chat on the other hand was more commonly used by casual and general users (who - at least in the West - would go on to use IM clients in the hundreds of millions) --[[User:Anonwaha|Anonwaha]] ([[User talk:Anonwaha|talk]]) 02:55, 16 May 2022 (EDT)</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Do you have a copy or archive of that script? --[[User:Kuz|Kuz]] ([[User talk:Kuz|talk]]) 23:16, 14 May 2022 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Do you have a copy or archive of that script? --[[User:Kuz|Kuz]] ([[User talk:Kuz|talk]]) 23:16, 14 May 2022 (EDT)</div></td></tr>  </table>

Anonwaha https://wiki.heyuri.net/index.php?title=Talk:Strange_World&diff=475&oldid=prev G1ade at 22:39, 15 May 2022 2022-05-15T22:39:13Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 22:39, 15 May 2022</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l29">Line 29:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 29:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>There's a whole other discussion you could get into with how both the imageboard format and the Amezou/2ch formats grew out of MiniBBS (and therefore are also "chat like" at their core), but I'll leave that for another talk page! --[[User:Anonwaha|Anonwaha]] ([[User talk:Anonwaha|talk]]) 22:51, 14 May 2022 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>There's a whole other discussion you could get into with how both the imageboard format and the Amezou/2ch formats grew out of MiniBBS (and therefore are also "chat like" at their core), but I'll leave that for another talk page! --[[User:Anonwaha|Anonwaha]] ([[User talk:Anonwaha|talk]]) 22:51, 14 May 2022 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">I see, so Web Chat refers to a specific lineage of websites. Then the comparison makes sense to me. More popular than IRC, WTF? I thought IRC used to be huge. [[User:G1ade|G1ade]] ([[User talk:G1ade|talk]]) 18:39, 15 May 2022 (EDT)</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><hr></div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><hr></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr>  </table>

G1ade https://wiki.heyuri.net/index.php?title=Talk:Strange_World&diff=467&oldid=prev Anonwaha at 05:51, 15 May 2022 2022-05-15T05:51:08Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 05:51, 15 May 2022</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l34">Line 34:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 34:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>...which one? (^^;</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>...which one? (^^;</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* I dug up many variations of Yui Chat, which were conveniently [https://web.archive.org/web/20030402121024/http://www.ibport.ne.jp/~yui/cgiwork/yuichat/index.html bundled together in one zip] at some point (it's the link that says (550k)). Yui Chat instances were very common across the Japanese web around 1997-2000, and you can still find many abandoned remnants of that era</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* I dug up many variations of Yui Chat, which were conveniently [https://web.archive.org/web/20030402121024/http://www.ibport.ne.jp/~yui/cgiwork/yuichat/index.html bundled together in one zip] at some point (it's the link that says (550k)). Yui Chat instances were very common across the Japanese web around 1997-2000, and you can still find many abandoned remnants of that era <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"><small>[Edit: [https://web.archive.org/web/19990117075305/http://www.a-web.co.jp:80/%7Eyui/chat/free/index.html you can find brief descriptions of some of the different versions here]]</small></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* Rescue's various web chat scripts [https://www.rescue.ne.jp/cgi/minichat/sample/minichat.cgi are] [https://www.rescue.ne.jp/cgi/webchat/sample/ still] [https://www.rescue.ne.jp/cgi/interchat/sample/ available] on [https://www.rescue.ne.jp/ his site], and they're still very stuck in the 90s. These were also [https://web.archive.org/web/19980428063927id_/http://www.angry-web.com/chat/index.html commonplace], and were used as the basis for many other scripts and chat sites</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* Rescue's various web chat scripts [https://www.rescue.ne.jp/cgi/minichat/sample/minichat.cgi are] [https://www.rescue.ne.jp/cgi/webchat/sample/ still] [https://www.rescue.ne.jp/cgi/interchat/sample/ available] on [https://www.rescue.ne.jp/ his site], and they're still very stuck in the 90s. These were also [https://web.archive.org/web/19980428063927id_/http://www.angry-web.com/chat/index.html commonplace], and were used as the basis for many other scripts and chat sites</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* MiniBBS 7.5 is difficult to obtain, but I managed to dig up [https://web.archive.org/web/20020806205609/https://www.rescue.ne.jp/cgi/minibbs1/ a copy of MiniBBS 7.55 / 7.95] which I believe is mostly the same</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* MiniBBS 7.5 is difficult to obtain, but I managed to dig up [https://web.archive.org/web/20020806205609/https://www.rescue.ne.jp/cgi/minibbs1/ a copy of MiniBBS 7.55 / 7.95] which I believe is mostly the same</div></td></tr>  </table>

Anonwaha https://wiki.heyuri.net/index.php?title=Talk:Strange_World&diff=466&oldid=prev Anonwaha at 05:44, 15 May 2022 2022-05-15T05:44:30Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 05:44, 15 May 2022</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l32">Line 32:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 32:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Do you have a copy or archive of that script? --[[User:Kuz|Kuz]] ([[User talk:Kuz|talk]]) 23:16, 14 May 2022 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Do you have a copy or archive of that script? --[[User:Kuz|Kuz]] ([[User talk:Kuz|talk]]) 23:16, 14 May 2022 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">...which one? (^^;</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">* I dug up many variations of Yui Chat, which were conveniently [https://web.archive.org/web/20030402121024/http://www.ibport.ne.jp/~yui/cgiwork/yuichat/index.html bundled together in one zip] at some point (it's the link that says (550k)). Yui Chat instances were very common across the Japanese web around 1997-2000, and you can still find many abandoned remnants of that era</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">* Rescue's various web chat scripts [https://www.rescue.ne.jp/cgi/minichat/sample/minichat.cgi are] [https://www.rescue.ne.jp/cgi/webchat/sample/ still] [https://www.rescue.ne.jp/cgi/interchat/sample/ available] on [https://www.rescue.ne.jp/ his site], and they're still very stuck in the 90s. These were also [https://web.archive.org/web/19980428063927id_/http://www.angry-web.com/chat/index.html commonplace], and were used as the basis for many other scripts and chat sites</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">* MiniBBS 7.5 is difficult to obtain, but I managed to dig up [https://web.archive.org/web/20020806205609/https://www.rescue.ne.jp/cgi/minibbs1/ a copy of MiniBBS 7.55 / 7.95] which I believe is mostly the same</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">* Along with the script for Remix, I [https://web.archive.org/web/20030202120105/http://www.bea.hi-ho.ne.jp/strangeworld/ uncovered] ([https://2ch.sh/src/1805.zip and previously fixed up and shared!]) what was effectively the final version of Shiba's modified MiniBBS (it's not that different to what we're using on Strange World already) ([https://web.archive.org/web/20030212205601/http://www.bea.hi-ho.ne.jp/strangeworld/recycle/readme.html also here's the readme])</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">* [http://www.scriptarchive.com/wwwboard.html WWWBoard is still available] --[[User:Anonwaha|Anonwaha]] ([[User talk:Anonwaha|talk]]) 01:44, 15 May 2022 (EDT)</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">* Additionally, there are [https://www.kent-web.com/chat/ many] [http://php.loglog.jp/chat/ other] [http://www.tryhp.net/downloadlist.htm#chat ancient] [http://komonet.qcweb.jp/script.htm web chat] scripts to be found out there!</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">--[[User:Anonwaha|Anonwaha]] ([[User talk:Anonwaha|talk]]) 01:44, 15 May 2022 (EDT)</ins></div></td></tr>  </table>

Anonwaha https://wiki.heyuri.net/index.php?title=Talk:Strange_World&diff=463&oldid=prev Kuz at 03:16, 15 May 2022 2022-05-15T03:16:02Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 03:16, 15 May 2022</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l30">Line 30:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 30:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>There's a whole other discussion you could get into with how both the imageboard format and the Amezou/2ch formats grew out of MiniBBS (and therefore are also "chat like" at their core), but I'll leave that for another talk page! --[[User:Anonwaha|Anonwaha]] ([[User talk:Anonwaha|talk]]) 22:51, 14 May 2022 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>There's a whole other discussion you could get into with how both the imageboard format and the Amezou/2ch formats grew out of MiniBBS (and therefore are also "chat like" at their core), but I'll leave that for another talk page! --[[User:Anonwaha|Anonwaha]] ([[User talk:Anonwaha|talk]]) 22:51, 14 May 2022 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><hr></div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><hr></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Do you have a copy or archive of that script? --[[User:Kuz|Kuz]] ([[User talk:Kuz|talk]]) 23:16, 14 May 2022 (EDT)</ins></div></td></tr>  </table>

Kuz https://wiki.heyuri.net/index.php?title=Talk:Strange_World&diff=462&oldid=prev Anonwaha at 02:52, 15 May 2022 2022-05-15T02:52:36Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 02:52, 15 May 2022</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l18">Line 18:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 18:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>By the way, check out Ward Cunningham's C2 wiki. It was the first wiki on the internet. It's mostly about programming languages/practices and hacker culture. The wiki's dormant now, but it makes an interesting study of how a wiki culture developed under constraints different to modern wikis. E.g. pages on that wiki are like if the main article pages and the talk pages on modern wikis were combined into one, so you are reading peoples' commentary and interjections with the articles themselves. Article names have to be at least two words long partly because of reasoning that a topic that can be summarized in one word was too general to have an article about, or something like that. Much of the time text and conversations were shuffled around and trimmed and split into new pages and people had to repair the flow of text to keep it coherent. One or two hardheaded shitters shat up a large portion of the wiki over time with argumentative verbal diarrhoea and people tried to quarantine it because few people were willing to just delete paragraphs outright. [[User:G1ade|G1ade]] ([[User talk:G1ade|talk]]) 21:08, 14 May 2022 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>By the way, check out Ward Cunningham's C2 wiki. It was the first wiki on the internet. It's mostly about programming languages/practices and hacker culture. The wiki's dormant now, but it makes an interesting study of how a wiki culture developed under constraints different to modern wikis. E.g. pages on that wiki are like if the main article pages and the talk pages on modern wikis were combined into one, so you are reading peoples' commentary and interjections with the articles themselves. Article names have to be at least two words long partly because of reasoning that a topic that can be summarized in one word was too general to have an article about, or something like that. Much of the time text and conversations were shuffled around and trimmed and split into new pages and people had to repair the flow of text to keep it coherent. One or two hardheaded shitters shat up a large portion of the wiki over time with argumentative verbal diarrhoea and people tried to quarantine it because few people were willing to just delete paragraphs outright. [[User:G1ade|G1ade]] ([[User talk:G1ade|talk]]) 21:08, 14 May 2022 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"><hr></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"><blockquote>IRC is my reference point for chat program [...] G1ade (talk) 18:08, 14 May 2022 (EDT)</blockquote></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">I'm not talking about IRC (which predates the web and wasn't as popular as web chat was in its prime) nor "chat programs" (i.e. IM, skype, etc. - which came after web chat) - I'm talking about web chat! It's on the web! Of course, web chat has been almost completely irrelevant since forums and IM took off in the latter half of the 90s... but prior to those, web chat was very prominent. Now bear with me as I take you on a journey...</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">On the Japanese side, there were countless web chat instances using things like the popular [https://web.archive.org/web/19961225124555/http://www.cup.com/yui/chat/ Yui Chat] script, which was based on [https://www.rescue.ne.jp/ Rescue]'s WebCHAT script. In the mid 90s, there were many popular sites that allowed people to create their own web chat "rooms", and it was on one of these sites ([https://web.archive.org/web/19961229104124/http://www.digitaleden.com/ Digital Eden] to be precise) where Ayashii World's presence on the web began. [https://web.archive.org/web/19961229114031/http://www.digitaleden.com/h10/a910.htm Here's what a random Digital Eden room looked like] - even though the Ayashii World room was unfortunately not archived ([https://web.archive.org/web/19961229104240/http://www.digitaleden.com/h6/daicyou.htm it is listed however]), all the rooms that ''are'' archived look identical to each other, so I'm 99% certain this is what it would have looked like. For the first year of its existence (1996/08/21–1997/09/08), Ayashii World was hopping between sites just like this (as opposed to using server hosts that allowed custom CGI scripts)</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Rescue also made the incredibly popular MiniBBS ([http://www.phoenix-c.or.jp/~a-planet/QP-Haney/Haney-keijiban/minibbs.cgi here's a random example of what the popular 7.5 version looked like]), first released on 1996/05/02. It married the [http://www.scriptarchive.com/demos/wwwboard/wwwboard.html WWWBoard] concept <small>(which during 1995-1996 was the definitive web-based bulletin board script around the globe - it was when MiniBBS took off in Japan and Ultimate Bulletin Board (UBB) took off in the West that we went our seperate ways... until 4chan came along!)</small> with a web chat-like interface. Instead of displaying post titles in a threaded manner (as was typical with Usenet/Netnews newreaders and WWWBoard), it displayed all posts in full, and in chronological order - just like a web chat!</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Shiba adopted MiniBBS on 1997/09/08 when he moved to [https://web.archive.org/web/19970402071846/http://free.xtel.com/ Free X-Tel], a Korean server host that allowed the use of CGI scripts - he and others would make some modifications to it, but at its core it was still MiniBBS. Now with the context of "bulletin boards" typically being the WWWBoard style sites with university-educated people making lengthy and well-written posts, and web chats typically being for casual/rapid discussion amongst "ordinary folk" with significantly less importance placed on formality, correct formatting, spelling, etc., ''this'' is why Ayashii World was considered to be "chat like" (along with the fact it just plain looked like a slightly more elaborate web chat!)</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">There's a whole other discussion you could get into with how both the imageboard format and the Amezou/2ch formats grew out of MiniBBS (and therefore are also "chat like" at their core), but I'll leave that for another talk page! --[[User:Anonwaha|Anonwaha]] ([[User talk:Anonwaha|talk]]) 22:51, 14 May 2022 (EDT)</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"><hr></ins></div></td></tr> </table>

Anonwaha https://wiki.heyuri.net/index.php?title=Talk:Strange_World&diff=461&oldid=prev G1ade at 01:08, 15 May 2022 2022-05-15T01:08:23Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 01:08, 15 May 2022</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l16">Line 16:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 16:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>It's its own category of thing. It's a wiki. [[User:G1ade|G1ade]] ([[User talk:G1ade|talk]]) 20:49, 14 May 2022 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>It's its own category of thing. It's a wiki. [[User:G1ade|G1ade]] ([[User talk:G1ade|talk]]) 20:49, 14 May 2022 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">By the way, check out Ward Cunningham's C2 wiki. It was the first wiki on the internet. It's mostly about programming languages/practices and hacker culture. The wiki's dormant now, but it makes an interesting study of how a wiki culture developed under constraints different to modern wikis. E.g. pages on that wiki are like if the main article pages and the talk pages on modern wikis were combined into one, so you are reading peoples' commentary and interjections with the articles themselves. Article names have to be at least two words long partly because of reasoning that a topic that can be summarized in one word was too general to have an article about, or something like that. Much of the time text and conversations were shuffled around and trimmed and split into new pages and people had to repair the flow of text to keep it coherent. One or two hardheaded shitters shat up a large portion of the wiki over time with argumentative verbal diarrhoea and people tried to quarantine it because few people were willing to just delete paragraphs outright. [[User:G1ade|G1ade]] ([[User talk:G1ade|talk]]) 21:08, 14 May 2022 (EDT)</ins></div></td></tr>  </table>

G1ade https://wiki.heyuri.net/index.php?title=Talk:Strange_World&diff=460&oldid=prev G1ade at 00:49, 15 May 2022 2022-05-15T00:49:24Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 00:49, 15 May 2022</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l14">Line 14:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 14:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>but what about this very talk page, is it technically a "chat"? a "forum"? Neither? What are we using? Are we using something to begin with O_o? Ayashii... --[[User:Kaguya|Kaguya]] ([[User talk:Kaguya|talk]]) 19:19, 14 May 2022 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>but what about this very talk page, is it technically a "chat"? a "forum"? Neither? What are we using? Are we using something to begin with O_o? Ayashii... --[[User:Kaguya|Kaguya]] ([[User talk:Kaguya|talk]]) 19:19, 14 May 2022 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">It's its own category of thing. It's a wiki. [[User:G1ade|G1ade]] ([[User talk:G1ade|talk]]) 20:49, 14 May 2022 (EDT)</ins></div></td></tr>  </table>

G1ade https://wiki.heyuri.net/index.php?title=Talk:Strange_World&diff=459&oldid=prev Kaguya at 23:19, 14 May 2022 2022-05-14T23:19:29Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 23:19, 14 May 2022</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l12">Line 12:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 12:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>IRC is my reference point for chat program, maybe that's why. Even when auto-update is enabled on an imageboard it still doesn't feel properly 'chat-like'. [[User:G1ade|G1ade]] ([[User talk:G1ade|talk]]) 18:08, 14 May 2022 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>IRC is my reference point for chat program, maybe that's why. Even when auto-update is enabled on an imageboard it still doesn't feel properly 'chat-like'. [[User:G1ade|G1ade]] ([[User talk:G1ade|talk]]) 18:08, 14 May 2022 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">but what about this very talk page, is it technically a "chat"? a "forum"? Neither? What are we using? Are we using something to begin with O_o? Ayashii... --[[User:Kaguya|Kaguya]] ([[User talk:Kaguya|talk]]) 19:19, 14 May 2022 (EDT)</ins></div></td></tr>  </table>

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